Some see, few know, many choose to wander aimlessly in a fog, devoid of sunlight. I seek the light of day and leave the others to their chosen realm of ignorance. They are the ones who have brought this great nation down. I write only for the benefit of those who possess the courage required to restore our birthright.

Saturday, February 1, 2014

ISLAM AND DAVID CAMERON Submitted by Paul Austin Murphy UK

My recent essay In A World Gone Mad Part Four The UK, stirred up a debate with some of my colleagues in England. One in particular, Paul Austin Murphy, chose to write a slightly different view which has since been published in American Thinker.

So many Americans choose to believe that Obama is the cause of all of our problems. I disagree. He is but a symptom of a changing world, changes that are being wrought by the Progressive movement that is sweeping the globe. For us to understand what is taking place we must widen our view and encompass the thoughts of our cousins in the UK and Europe. As you read the following, note if you will, the closing thought, and apply 'Obama' where the author mentions David Cameron. Please welcome Paul Austin Murphy.

In a sense, David Cameron's position on Islam is to be expected. As British Prime Minister, he is of course too busy to study Islam in detail. And even before becoming PM (in 2010), my guess is that he would have spent almost zero time studying Islam. Sure he would have read about Islam, Islamic terrorism, and Islamism in the news. Nonetheless, I doubt that he gave such things much thought when out of power. He would have been far too busy planning his rise to power and, in a auxiliary manner, thinking about tax issues, the NHS, the structure of the Tory Party, competing with the Labour Party and whatnot.

It is of course true that Cameron should have studied Islam independently from the Conservative Muslim Forum, Baroness Sayeeda Warsi (the unelected Minister for Faith and Communities) and his advisers (i.e., the higher civil servants). After all, he was 35 years old when 9/11 occurred and 39 when 7/7 occurred in the city of London. He will now also know about the massive Muslim grooming of young non-Muslim girls in the UK. He knows about the 85 or more sharia courts in his country, the weekly political activism of Islamists on the streets of the UK, the 15 foiled Islamic terrorist attacks between only 2005 and 2008, etc. He also knows about the Taliban, the Islamic civil wars in Iraq and Syria. He may even know about the Islamist slaughter of over one and a half million Sudanese Christians and black animists in the 1990s and 2000s. 

In fact David Cameron is even on record as having criticized what he 

then called "Islamists". That was in 2005. The "neoconservative" writer, Douglas Murray, at around the same time, also suggested that things should be done to slow down the Islamization of Europe. What happened to him? The Conservative Party ostracized him. In addition, a Conservative Party MP by the name of Michael Gove wrote a book in 2006, called Celsius 7/7. This book is about Islamism and the threat of Islamic terrorism in Europe. Michael Gove has been almost silent on these issues ever since. You may have heard of him: he's now the Secretary of State for Education, working under David Cameron.

More relevantly, Cameron might have even read the Koran. However, what's likely to have happened is that he has been fed various nice and innocuous extracts from that book by advisers and Tory Muslims (as well as by non-Tory Muslim individuals and Islamic groups). However, I doubt that he voluntarily picked it and read it before 2010. I mention this because Tony Blair, infamously, once claimed the he reads the Koran every night.

Since David Cameron become Prime Minister, he might have spent a few hours maximum independently studying Islam. But he most certainly won't have chosen his own works to study. What will have happened, again, is that his civil servants, or perhaps certain Muslims within the party, will have supplied him with some Islam-friendly literature. He would have read all that and taken most of it as face value quite simply because he literally hasn't got the time to study Islam in detail -- let alone be critical. Besides which, Cameron will acquire the information he needs in order to be a successful politician. And being a critic of Islam, he may well think, will never pay him political dividends.

If the "Islam issue" were as pressing for him as debates about tax, the NHS, competition with the Labour Party, sustaining his own rule within the Tory Party, etc.; then he would indeed have studied it in detail. However, although the Islam issue is pressing for the UK and indeed for the world as a whole, it is not a pressing issue for David Cameron himself. Not in the least. In fact, from what he said recently, and indeed what he's recently done (e.g., making London the "Islamic finance capitol of the world"), I would say that ingratiating himself with Islam and the Muslim community-of-votes (large parts of which tend to vote in blocks) has been (fairly) pressing for him.

David Cameron will almost certainly be out of power within the next ten years -- probably much sooner. Thus why on earth would it be important to do a critical study of Islam? It may be utterly irrelevant to him. The only time Islam may become relevant to Cameron is when it impinges on his own power and his own party's political influence; as with sharia finance in London and when he needs to prove his commitment to Community Cohesion and Diversity (at least to his Liberal and Leftist detractors). To expect anything else from Cameron is naive.

When I say that Cameron relies on his advisers and Tory Muslims to tell him what passes for the truth about Islam, I'm not passing the buck. Cameron is still culpable. The point is that this is how it will work in practice for such a busy man. That is, he will get almost all his advice on Islam from third parties. He is of course politically responsible for such self willed ignorance. And it is also very likely that he knows he's somewhat ignorant on Islam. Despite that, he may not care that much. As I said, he won't be in power when the camel dung hits the fan (although in many cases it has already hit the fan -- even in the UK). In fact there's even a possibility that David Cameron knows the full destructive reality of Islam but he still doesn't care that much, at least not politically speaking.

If Cameron were anything like Winston Churchill, he would think for himself about Islam. But he's not at all like Winston Churchill. Given the type of man he is, and the political situation we are in at the moment, it is naive to expect anything else from this particular person.

The Backlash...

Quite simply, it would be impossible for the Tory Party to be critical of Islam itself because of the inevitable massive backlash from Britain's three to five million Muslims, as well as from the Islamophile battalions of the left. And even though 75% of Brits believe that Islam is incompatible with Western civilization, and 40% of Brits think civil war is inevitable, and 59% think it is likely, that backlash against speaking the truth (or opinions) would still be too much for a present-day political party to cope with. In ten years' time things could be better. But, then again, they could also be much worse.

In point of fact, I don't even think UKIP would ever get away with being critical of Islam in any way; at least not at the present moment in time. Indeed this party is already watering down its position on immigration and suchlike. Who knows, in five years' time UKIP may have fully embraced the European Union (EU).

Basically, there is nowhere for David Cameron, the British Prime Minister, to move on this issue. Or, more correctly, this is nowhere he will be allowed to move. He is obliged to say what he says and do what he does. 

Editor's note. Paul, there is one observation you made above that is a powerful teaching tool for my fellow Americans:
"In addition, a Conservative Party MP by the name of Michael Gove wrote a book in 2006, called Celsius 7/7. This book is about Islamism and the threat of Islamic terrorism in Europe. Michael Gove has been almost silent on these issues ever since. You may have heard of him: he's now the Secretary of State for Education, working under David Cameron."
I recall in the movie 'Patton' when the General hired Omar Bradley as his second in command and then told Bradley, "Now, you won't be spying for Eisenhower, you'll be working for me." What worked for Patton also works for Cameron...Silence dissent at all costs! This is the left at work.


  1. Great article and I think Mr. Murphy is spot on. I wonder if Blair or Cameron either one read this piece.
    As far as Tony Blair’s claims go, giving credit to a philosophy and doctrine created by a bi-polar Arab does not exactly give him high marks in my book. I would surmise that he may scan it as he would the writings of the Dalai Lama but I don’t believe for one minute that he actually knows the stuff that this hate-filled propaganda exudes and he’s an idiot if he thinks we believe that garbage. If he truly converted to Catholicism then he would be somewhat skeptical of the Quran. Me thinks he talks a bit too much and that his comments are geared to please a “politically correct” audience. I think that Mr. Murphy’s description of how Cameron “studies” the Quran, it probably the exact way Blair “reads” the Quran.
    The leaders of the world who “ingratiate themselves with Islam and the Muslim community” are playing with fire and they will get burned. This in itself puzzles the heck out of me and I find myself thinking, “Can these people really be that naïve or are they so greedy for “filthy lucre” that they think they’ll somehow escape the wrath of this religion of evil. And by the way, we have a whole bunch in Washington doing this exact same thing.

    I liked Murphy’s reference to Churchill and my first thought was that if either of these men, Cameron or Blair, (or any of our own leaders) had half the character that Churchill had we wouldn’t be wading in these marshes of corruption. Seems like I remember Churchill saying something like, “You have enemies? Good. That means that you’ve stood up for something sometime in your life. The ”…backlash against speaking the truth….”comment was interesting and true. Nobody is standing. Nobody. Anyone who attempts to stand reaps unimaginable consequences. I put nothing past this present regime we have running this country. Murphy’s remark about Cameron being somewhat ignorant of Islam is most likely true also.

    I will tell you who does know the Quran. Col. /Congressman Allen West. I watched him in a Town Hall meeting respond to a citizen who criticized him for maligning Islam. He literally quoted chapter/verse in several places saying, “Let me tell you what the Quran says Sir. It says….” Allen West should have been our first black president. I was so impressed with his leadership and his brilliance. Sadly, though, he was maligned and cheated out of even his own district but that’s another story. God help us.
    PS The editor’s note, “…Silence dissent at all costs! This is the left at work” was good also. Silence at all costs. Do we really realize what that cost is? I think not.
    Thank you Mr. Murphy and thank you Danny for standing.

  2. I have re read Michael Gove's book 7/7
    It is quite clear some people within the British government are well aware of the danger of Islam. If we are to believe that David Cameron and other members of the Cabinet know nothing of Islam then we have to believe that people like Michael Gove sit in dumb silence every time Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan are mentioned, or a terror attack that is attributed to Islam happens.

    Do we believe the inner circle's of powerful nations are as dumb as stumps when it comes to Islam. Or is there another answer?

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